Well crap Gotch You have piqued my interest. Now Im gonna be reading up on this. For sure interesting as hell. Zinnerman is a jewish sounding name. That adds more to the interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotch
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Well crap Gotch You have piqued my interest. Now Im gonna be reading up on this. For sure interesting as hell. Zinnerman is a jewish sounding name. That adds more to the interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotch
I like some Manson.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
Son House talks a little about Robert Johnson. In this clip Son would have been 78 years old I think. The birth date usually given 1902 is actually 16 years off, and that has been pretty well verified.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxMYwFA2liU]YouTube - Son House and Robert Johnson(Experience).[/ame]
That is some neat stuff. Even with the black guy with a jewish last name. Jews were part of the south during the civil war. They played a larger part than what most would think. I never new that till I got to reading some more into it. So it makes sense a black guy having a jewish sounding last name. Man I love the history of the south. From the Miss Delta to the migration to Chicago and Detroit. Detroit Coming from outta work coal miners. And to Chicago from up the Mississippi
Zinnerman's a real mystery. no known recordings of him exist. But Son House and others like Charlie Patton knew him and said that he was really good.
Btw, that National resonator Son is playing in that clip currently resides in the Delta Blues Museum in Clarksdale.
After his friend and music partner Willie Brown died in 1952 Son didn't even pick up a guitar for about 10 years. So in that clip you are seeing an 80ish year old man after a 10 year lay-off....not bad.
Hey Gotch Thanks. I remember watching a documentary about a guy that learned to play using slice up inter tubes. That wouldn't be him would it?
I didnt know that Johnson borrowed from Son, Id always heard Johnson was the King of the Delta Blues....I guess he is just more famous from the story of selling his soul. He was supposed to be poisoned, something in his drink is how he died right?
From what I always heard. Johnson sold his sole to the devil. Never new about the Waterman part. But Alot of Blacks in that time and other folks referred to Jews as the devil. Dont meen to keep bringing up the jewish connection. But its neat to see how thing interact
Waterman was actually Son's friend and manager later in Son's life. By all accounts Waterman was good to Son and very protective of him. Ike Zinnerman was the man who tutored Johnson at night in the graveyard.
Keep in mind that to us and even to the people who were asking the questions Robert Johnson and Willie Brown and Charlie Patton are names of mysterious long dead musicians. To Son they were real people and his friends.
When "investigating" the story and legend the first thing you have to do is to disregard pretty much everything said by Honeyboy Edwards and Sonny Boy Williamson as their stories have been shown to be less than accurate. Better sources are Johnny Shines, Robert Lockwood Jr. and of course Son.
By most accounts Johnson was intentionally poisoned using strychnine in a bottle of whiskey that was given to him. There are historians who don't believe this is accurate, but it seems to be accepted by most as true.
Johnson often altered the songs he learned from Son in rather interesting ways. The songs "Preaching the Blues" and "Walking Blues" were two that he adopted from Son. Son's version of Preaching the Blues is somewhat autobiographical as he often played juke joints on Saturday night and turned around and preached sermons at the Baptist church on Sunday morning. Johnson's version is greatly sped up and lyrically much different. Where as Son tells us "a sister jumped up" Johnson says "the devil jumped up".
I'm pretty sure the inner tube story is not about Son or Johnson.